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PostSubject: Just going to throw these out there...   Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:25 am

It occurs to me that shopkeepers should be a little more picky about who they sell to.
How 'bout we make them 'Faction aware' in much the same way as the Guardians of Light & Darkness behave to members of the opposite Faction?

Also, What's the thoughts on Quests that not only give xp & gold, but (depending on the quest and how the player behaves to the people involved) shifts their Alignments too?

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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:25 pm

Rash my dear, I'm going to leave this up until we get a larger player base. An opinion between just the two of us wouldn't be fair.
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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:32 am

well i agree with that concerning merchants in say, Gondor or Rivendell.. but evil PCs shouldnt even be able to access those shops without being part of an invading force...lol..
but as far as shops in like , say, bree... I really dont think they would care what alignment you were... lots of shady types passed through/ lurked about there.
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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:59 pm

Neutral shops were not under consideration. I was thinking more of the 'aligned' shops. Edoras, Gondor, Rivendell, Carn Dum, Mordor, Minas Morgul etc should all be restricted in who they sell to. I killed a room full of Orcs in front of the Cirith Ungol merchant and all he said was "I'll sell to you if you bring me the head of Prince Charming". A bit...incongruous I thought.

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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:44 am

Rashanka wrote:
Neutral shops were not under consideration. I was thinking more of the 'aligned' shops. Edoras, Gondor, Rivendell, Carn Dum, Mordor, Minas Morgul etc should all be restricted in who they sell to. I killed a room full of Orcs in front of the Cirith Ungol merchant and all he said was "I'll sell to you if you bring me the head of Prince Charming". A bit...incongruous I thought.

Who's "Prince Charming" ? lol
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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:13 am

*throws hands in air* I despair of the modern education...

In this case & specifically; Faramir.

In general, "Bring me the head of Prince Charming" is a book written by Roger Zelazny and Robert Sheckley. A relatively well-known one at that.

*sigh*

*appeals to the the heavens* "I have fallen into the lands of the ungodly"

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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:11 am

Rashanka wrote:
*throws hands in air* I despair of the modern education...

In this case & specifically; Faramir.

In general, "Bring me the head of Prince Charming" is a book written by Roger Zelazny and Robert Sheckley. A relatively well-known one at that.

*sigh*

*appeals to the the heavens* "I have fallen into the lands of the ungodly"

Well pardon me! I am but a lowly working class construction worker.. not a humanities professor!
some of us have not been soo lucky in life !

---signed sincerely yours,
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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:51 am

Laughing Stop grovelling peasant!

Roger Zelazny is a popular SF/Fantasy author. I think he wrote this particular book about 20 yeasr ago, so it's probably more a Geek thing than a Humanities thing; professors don't enter into it.

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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:08 pm

Rashanka wrote:
Laughing Stop grovelling peasant!

Roger Zelazny is a popular SF/Fantasy author. I think he wrote this particular book about 20 yeasr ago, so it's probably more a Geek thing than a Humanities thing; professors don't enter into it.

hehe Though I've read quite a bit of sci-fi/fantasy in my youth, these days my authors are more along the lines of Marx, Engels, Bachunin...Chomsky.. etc. hehe
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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:20 am

Smile I loved the Amber series

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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:23 am

lol! I'm sorry, I just had a mental flash of the Amber series being written by Marx... What a Face

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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:04 pm

*tosses a blonde (grey) lock and looks around innocently* Oh I didn't know Roger's middle name was "Marx" Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:08 pm

erm... No, that's his Brother...?

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PostSubject: So... getting back to the topic of the merchants   Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:39 pm

I've noticed that with only some of the merchants an Appraise check is performed. For those who don't know, a successful Appraise check means better prices with a merchant, while a failed one means worse ones. A Neutral result is also possible, with obvious effects.

What's the feeling on adding the Appraise check to all the merchants?

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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:11 am

Rashanka wrote:
I've noticed that with only some of the merchants an Appraise check is performed. For those who don't know, a successful Appraise check means better prices with a merchant, while a failed one means worse ones. A Neutral result is also possible, with obvious effects.

What's the feeling on adding the Appraise check to all the merchants?

I kind of like that idea, but its too bad that a system can't be implemented based on your what role your PC might play such as race, etc.. I'd dread the day i happened to see a chaotic evil Uruk appraising away at Rivendell's merchants.. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:08 am

Don't laugh. It happens; and was the subject of my original post. There's no reason some sort of Racial modification couldn't be added intot he equation, assuming Tree feels like going to that effort of course.

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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:42 pm

Adding Race or Alignment requirements to the conversation is not a problem. Hahaha.. Its just making that adjustment to.. and I kid you not.. over 120 different merchants in the Edge.

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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:41 pm

Oh is that all?

Seriously, what's involved? Modifying the scripts, or is that the easy part? Having to go into each and every one of them I guess would be the killer. Still, perhaps you wouldn't need to alter them all. Maggie would probably sell her mother; if she hasn't already. Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:04 pm

Actually I'd have to go into a lot of the conversation. For each merchant we'd want to update. Unfortunately, a lot of the stores are orignially scripted when we inherited the edge, I just updated their inventories... or not. Smile And creatively, a lot of those scripts are named ac_1 thru 110 (ac standing for the NWN default -onaction) So ironically, I have no idea which script belongs to which store without looking in the actual merchant conversation. Hahaha. Yeppers. There are times when I just want to rip everything out and start with just the pretty decorations. Can easily understand why Jon got so frustrated with the clutter.

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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:39 pm

BTW Happy Valentine's day to you two lovely ladies. hehe
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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:44 pm

Schmoozer. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:48 am

I was hoping to perhaps acquire some better shades of green dye for Strider at least hehe. If you look on the color palette its the eighth color down from the top left corner. From that one (including that one) this color set i believe ends at the third one over from there. Thank you! I love you
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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:20 am

I'm afraid I'm guilty of this (not to a huge extent) but it's possible to, when getting a favorable check at the gem merchant, buy large amounts of monetary gems and re-sell, a royal with a favorable check sells for 9.3k, but the merchant will then buy-back for 10,700g, a net gain of 1,400g. It doesn't sound like much, but when buying 50 and re-selling, that's 58,000 (I believe >>), and if people take advantage of it they can easily cash up to ungodly amounts of money.

My suggestion, take appraise checks away from the Bank merchant NPC.
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PostSubject: Re: Just going to throw these out there...   Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:58 am

lol that figures. I will fix that one asap.

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